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-Mike

26 thoughts on “Premier Support for Oracle 11.2 will end soon …
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  1. Hi Pat,

    that is what I try to explain – there is no such thing as a 2nd release anymore – thinking from the past – not from a business perspective (no offense!).

    Check out MOS Note:742060.1. – it will tell you when 12.2 is planned to getting release – and add the usual time period for the first patch set on top. Then you’ll easily understand why you should change your plan.

    Watch out for other HUGE and IMPORTANT software vendors such as SAP: they’ll announce their support for 12.1 soon.

    Cheers
    Mike

  2. Mike,

    Couple of comments on the posting, its being advocated to upgrade to 12.1.0.1/2, but extended support for 12101 ends Jul 22, 2015, which is earlier than 11204-Jan 31, 2018. 12102 is not released for our platform and then we have to wait for certification with EBS, isn’t it prudent to go to 11204 based on those facts.

    Also, I don’t understand your post regarding 11204 support time frame pertaining to "…extra cost till 31-JAN-2018..", can you please clarify.

    "For Oracle Database 11.2.0.4 – the Terminal (final) Patch Set for Oracle Database 11.2 – Oracle will waive (no extra cost, no action required) the first year of Extended Support to every customer with a valid support contract. …..

    You can extend the Extended Support for Oracle Database 11.2.0.4 by a maximum of two additional years until 31-JAN-2018 – *** but then at the usual extra cost***"
    "

    ##### Data from the Support Site #####
    Product Release End of Ongoing Support
    Premier Support Error Correction Extended Support Sustaining Support
    Oracle Database 11.2.0.3.0 Jan 31, 2015 Aug 27, 2015 Jan 31, 2018 Indefinite In approximately 10 months new Oracle Database 11.2.0.3.0 patches will no longer be produced.

    Oracle Database 11.2.0.4.0 Jan 31, 2015 Jan 31, 2018 Jan 31, 2018 Indefinite In approximately 39 months new Oracle Database 11.2.0.4.0 patches will no longer be produced.

    Oracle Database 12.1.0.1.0 Jul 31, 2018 Jul 22, 2015 Jul 31, 2021 Indefinite In approximately 9 months new Oracle Database 12.1.0.1.0 patches will no longer be produced.

    Regards

  3. Hi there,

    thanks for your comment.

    First of all I hope that I can post the download links for the missing platforms later this week ๐Ÿ˜‰ No promise given – but … ๐Ÿ™‚

    Regarding the extra cost thing:
    Extended Support is an extra cost offer. It will cost:
    year 1: 10% extra of your support fee
    year 2: 20% extra of your support fee
    year 3: 20% extra of your support fee

    In case of 11.2.0.4 we’ll waive the first year – no action requirement, no payment, no extra cost for you (as long as you have a valid support contract which I assume silently).

    If you’d like to get more than this 1 year extended support then you’ll have to purchase it and pay the above mentioned extra (which I think are the current prices – I don’t check them on a regular basis so you may please check back with Oracle Support).

    Does this answer your questions?

    Cheers
    Mike

  4. I’m putting together a plan for upgrading a number of 11g Standard Edition databases to 12c.

    According to MOS 742060.1, patching for 12.1.0.1 ends in July 2015.

    According to MOS 1905806.1, 12.1.0.2 is not yet available for Standard Edition, and no date has been published.

    This means 12.1.0.1 Standard Edition will be supported for an unknown period of time of less than 9 months duration. Given the work involved in upgrading, it would seem better to stick with 11.2.0.4 for now as it has a longer (and more predictable) shelf-life than 12.1.0.1.

    Does this make sense, or am I missing something here?

  5. Hi Mike, attended the Oracle 12c upgrade event in Utrecht 30th of October. An interesting day!

    We would like to start upgrading to 12c soon. However, I just learned that Enterprise Manager 12.1.0.4 OMS can not be installed with a 12c Repository database. The highest possible version for the repository database is 11.2.0.4.

    It’s hard to convince my customer to upgrade their databases to 12c when Oracle’s own applications cannot be used with a 12c database.

    Oracle’s reply on the certification SR that I raised: "We have seen certain issues during internal testing while using 12c as Repository Database and are still in the process of certifying it". How long has 12c RDBMS been around yet? ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Regards,
    Gys

  6. Hi Gys,

    fully agree – we just investigate what is hindering 12c Repo support. There’s a note out there from august 27 just saying that it got revoked – but no update since then.

    As soon as I have news on that I’ll post it. Meanwhile EBS and other tools are supported on 12c as far as I know.

    Cheers
    Mike

  7. Dan,

    regarding SE: I know that this is hard to understand. But you nailed it down right to the point. And I can’t give any news about SE as I haven’t heard anything yet.

    Thanks
    Mike

  8. Hello Mike,
    I was listening your talk at DOAG. So I want to follow your hint and tried to download 12.1.0.2 – and was very surprised that this is only EE (as already mentioned above, but unfortunately not very much commented). Did you mentioned this in your talk?
    So what to do for SE users? Still stay at 11.2.0.4?
    Regards, Nikolaus

  9. Niklaus,

    thanks for your comment – I see your point and I tend to agree. As long as Oracle 12.1.0.2 SE is not available I wouldn’t do the full testing now for 12.1.0.1 if you are already on 11.2.0.4.

    Cheers
    Mike

  10. Hi Mike

    We are in a similar situation to Niklaus except we have 30 odd databases running 10.2.0.5 standard edition and would like to upgrade to 12c if possible but still no sign of 12.1.0.2 standard being available. There is nothing on MoS regarding possible release dates.

    The question came up in the Ask Tom Roundtable at the UKOUG yesterday, I was going to ask it myself but someone else beat me to it but nobody in the room could answer it.

    Regards,

    Tony

  11. Tony,

    thanks for your comment. And actually I can just repeat what I have written above. If you are on 10.2.0.5 right now I would be a bit patient and approach the switch to 12.1.0.2 once it becomes available as SE. But again, I’m unable to name any dates. Just be a bit patient please.

    Thanks!
    Mike

  12. I Mike,
    I have the problem with SE too.
    Our softwares are certified for SE and EE.

    July-2015 ends SE 12.1.0.1 and
    actually I haven’t news about SE in 12.1.0.2.

    Our SE in 11.2.0.4 ends extended free support in Jan-2016.

    So, what should we do?

    Again, SE is only in NOCDB configuration.
    According with:
    https://docs.oracle.com/database/121/UPGRD/deprecated.htm#BABDBCJI

    "The non-CDB architecture is deprecated in Oracle Database 12c, and may be desupported and unavailable in a release after Oracle Database 12c Release 2. Oracle recommends use of the CDB architecture."

    This means that Oracle SE will die with the next release?

    Thanks.
    Massimo

  13. Massimo,

    first of all I fully understand the frustration about 12.1.0.2 SE not available. But as written before I don’t know any further information about it. You can be 100% sure that internally the problem is well seen.

    Regarding the deprecation of the non-cdb architecture:
    (a) deprecation does not mean desupport!
    (b) right now stand alone is fully supported – there’s no desupport announcement about it
    Meaning, regardless of EE or SE you can still setup and operate databases as stand-alone deployments.

    This may change one day in the future but first of all it hasn’t been announced yet nor is stand-alone deployment yet desupported.

    Hope this helps – cheers
    Mike

  14. What would you advise for those of us that have a number of applications where the vender does not offer support for 12c of any flavor nor has any plans to do so in the near future?

  15. I would tell them about the fact that SAP has already been certified Oracle 12.1.0.2 for the simple reason that otherwise customers may see a lockout as 11.2.0.4 will go out of Extended Support in Jan 2018 – but usually customers will at least for the first patchset on 12.2 – and this may be releases as late as at the same time roughly (this is no official date – I’m just guessing based on experience from the past).

    There’s no such thing as "the 2nd release" anymore …

    Thanks – and I hope this helps!
    Mike

  16. Unfortunately not – but if you download the slide deck (Upgrade Migrate Consolidate to Oracle Database 12c) on the right side you may see some content – but of course not the fine print etc.

    Cheers
    Mike

  17. ok so for SE clients, we can only go to 12.1.0.1, as 12.1.0.2 is EE only at present (and no indication if it will ever hit other versions).

    and patching for 12.1.0.1 ends july 2015. will 12.1.0.2 be built for SE? or has pretty much been flagged in anticipation of 12.2, given 12.1.0.2 is the terminal patchset for 12.1?

  18. Hi,

    can we use the jdbc drivers (ojdbc6.jar) from oracle 11.2.0.4 after one year free extended support end date(31st Jan 2016)?

    Regards,
    Sharma.

  19. As far as I know you should always use the newest drivers. But as long as there’s support for them you can use them.

    If you are still in doubt or need an official statement please check back with Oracle Support.

    Cheers
    Mike

  20. Mark,

    12.1.0.2 will be released for SE – there should be an announcement pretty soon as far as I know.

    And 12.1.0.2 stays under Premier Support until June 2018 with the option to extend it with Extended Support.

    I see the pain with 12.1.0.1 patching ending in July 2015. But 12.2. is far away …

    Mike

  21. Release: 11.2.0.4
    Patching Ends: 31-Dec-2020
    Notes and Exceptions: Extended Support fees waived until May 31, 2017. An ES service contract is required starting 1-Jun-2017.

  22. Release: 11.2.0.4
    Patching Ends: 31-Dec-2020
    Notes and Exceptions: Extended Support fees waived until end of December 2018. An ES service contract is required starting 1-Jan-2019.

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